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--- messaging_apps [2026/01/14 13:19] – Signal has display names now but it still sucks particles
+++ messaging_apps [2026/01/14 13:23] (current) – [Mandatory Apps] particles
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   - Most secure((Signal and WhatsApp use the Signal protocol, aka the Axolotl Ratchet, which is the most advanced encryption scheme that exists for messaging.)): Signal. That's all. Phone number identity((They added a workaround that allows you to use a display name, but this doesn't actually let you create an account without a real phone number, so it's still annoying.)) sucks. Sluggish. Feels terrible to use.
   - Second most secure: WhatsApp. Kinda bad. Sluggish. Poor features. Phone number identity sucks. Sluggish. Founders promised “no ads, ever.” In 2025, it got ads.
-  - Discord: Slowly becoming the QQ of the west in every meaning of the word. Insecure. Only thing that makes it noteworthy is that everyone is using it. Totalitarian moderation system((You would actually expect this type of behavior from WeChat or QQ, but surprisingly, neither of those services will ban you for jokingly saying "im 12".)) bans you for saying "im 12" as a joke. Voice calls are pretty good quality.
+  - Discord: Slowly becoming the QQ of the west in every meaning of the word. Insecure. Only thing that makes it noteworthy is that everyone is using it. Totalitarian moderation system((You would actually expect this type of behavior from WeChat or QQ, but surprisingly, neither of those services will ban you for jokingly saying "im 12".)) bans you for saying "im 12" as a joke. Voice calls are pretty good quality. At this point, even paid users are forced to accept their "quests" which are interactive ads that reward an in-app currency for participating in ads. Not sure how they got away with this. [[discord_screensharing|Linux screensharing doesn't work without extra work]].
-  - LINE: "Letter Sealing" security is ok((Functionally it's E2EE but the backup mechanisms are not well-documented or known secure.)). Functionally, security defeated by various backup systems like LYP backup. Has ads in Japan (even with LYP).
+  - LINE: "Letter Sealing" security is ok((Functionally it's E2EE but the backup mechanisms are not well-documented or known secure.)). Functionally, security defeated by various backup systems like LYP backup. Has ads in Japan (even with LYP). Sluggish at times, but generally okay if you only care about mobile. No Linux client.
     - Seriously, LYP((Line Yahoo! Japan PayPay)) or whoever you are, please explain to me why LINE in Japan has like 9 billion ads even if you pay for LYP Premium?
     - Using LINE outside of Japan is kind of great because it has no ads.
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   * Japan: LINE.
   * Korea: KakaoTalk.
+  * Anywhere with Chinese friends: WeChat.